Nabra Nelson: Salam Alaikum. Welcome to Kunafa and Shay, a podcast produced for HowlRound Theatre Commons, a free and open platform for theatremakers worldwide. Kunafa and Shay discusses and analyzes modern and historic Center Japanese and North Africa or MENA theatre from throughout the area.
Marina Johnson: I am Marina.
Nabra: And I am Nabra.
Marina: And we’re your hosts.
Nabra: Our identify, “Kunafa and Shay,” invitations you into the dialogue in the easiest way we all know how with complicated and scrumptious sweets like kunafa and completely heat tea or in Arabic, shay.
Marina: Kunafa and Shay is a spot to share experiences, concepts, and generally to have interaction with our variations. In every nation within the Arab world, you will discover kunafa made otherwise. In that approach, we additionally lean into the variety, complexity, and sturdy flavors of MENA theatre. We deliver our personal views, analysis and particular visitors so as to begin a dialogue and encourage additional studying and dialogue. Yalla, seize your tea, the shay is excellent.
Hello, everybody. Welcome to a particular episode of Kunafa and Shay in these very difficult instances. We’re recording this on January ninth, 2024 within the midst of an ongoing genocide in Palestine. The previous few months have been an indescribably tough time. As most of you understand, my analysis is on Palestinian theatre, so I wished to deliver you a selected episode that focuses on Palestine and efficiency.
Nabra: How can theatre make an actual affect in moments of social and political disaster? Throughout a time of ongoing genocide and brutal occupation in Palestine with an exacerbating humanitarian disaster, this particular episode focuses on Palestinian theatre and political motion throughout borders. We talk about ASHTAR Theatre’sThe Gaza Monologues and Jackie Lubeck’s To The Good Individuals of Gaza. Then Palestinian actor, author, and scenographer Jeries AbuJaber joins us in dialog about what’s at the moment taking place within the West Financial institution and Gaza and his expertise as a theatre artist in Palestine. AbuJaber additionally shares his expertise as a clown with RED NOSES Worldwide and the performing he is executed with them within the West Financial institution and just about in Gaza.
Marina: However first, I need to contextualize what’s taking place in Gaza. My hope with these remarks is to supply some context for what’s taking place in Gaza for the previous virtually twenty years. In August of 2005, Israeli forces withdrew from Gaza after thirty-eight years of occupying it since 1967. The subsequent 12 months, Hamas gained a democratic election with a 46 p.c majority in style vote. Israel, the US, and different international locations didn’t like this and tried to overthrow the election outcomes. Israel then imposed a blockade on Gaza consisting of a collection of sanctions which have continued to at the present time, which severely restrict how a lot electrical energy is on the market in Gaza, their water provide, limiting the imports that have been capable of get into Gaza and shutting the borders in order that Palestinians in Gaza couldn’t go away the nation. One of many some ways this impacts the residents of Gaza, for instance, to ensure that most cancers sufferers or individuals who have wants that exceed the capabilities of Gazan hospitals, they should apply for a allow from Israel to journey to Jerusalem or one other hospital inside the West Financial institution that may handle them. Usually, these permits are denied.
In 2017, 54 p.c of the individuals who utilized for permits obtained them with a minimum of fifty others dying that 12 months as a direct results of being denied life-saving medical remedy. That is one thing that Jeries will discuss slightly bit extra as a result of he set to work with a few of these kids who’re then given permits to entry medical remedy outdoors of Gaza. Israel additionally controls the aerospace and shoreline, giving Gazans restricted house through which they’ll fish or swim. In 2006, Dov Weisglas was quoted as saying, “The thought is to place the Palestinians on a eating regimen however to not make them die of starvation.” A doc was later discovered that confirmed Israel calculating the quantity of meals that Gazans wanted to keep away from malnutrition and would let that quantity alone enter Gaza.
For greater than a decade, when analysts described the technique utilized by Israel in opposition to Palestinian militants within the Gaza Strip, they used a metaphor. Israeli forces have been “mowing the grass.” The phrase implies that Palestinians within the Gaza Strip are weeds that have to be reduce.
Nabra: Here’s a very temporary and incomplete historical past of the bombings in Gaza. In 2008 to 2009, there was a twenty-three day bombardment with about fourteen hundred Palestinians killed. In 2012, for eight days they have been bombed with 174 Palestinians killed. In 2014, fifty days of bombing with twenty-one hundred Palestinians killed in Gaza. 2021, for eleven days of bombing, a minimum of 260 individuals have been killed. And all of those homicide statistics are sometimes underreported or of us who’re lacking that aren’t accounted for. Proper now, The Guardian reported, quote, “Gaza’s Ministry of Well being says that a minimum of 22,835 Palestinians had been killed by January seventh,” which is 2 days previous to after we’re recording, with one other 58,416 reportedly injured. That determine doesn’t distinguish between combatants and civilians however an estimated 70 p.c are ladies and youngsters. About seven thousand extra are reportedly lacking and almost certainly lifeless. The 22,835 lifeless characterize about one in 100 of Gaza’s whole inhabitants. They’ve been killed at a price of slightly below 250 a day.
Marina: So let’s start by speaking in regards to the solidarity efficiency that most individuals are most likely conversant in, The Gaza Monologues. The Gaza Monologues have been written by youth in Gaza after the 2008-2009 bombardment. In 2010, Iman Aoun, inventive director and co-founder of ASHTAR Theatre in Ramallah, who we have had on the podcast earlier than, contacted Ali Abu Yasine who would work with the group and assist them write and inform their tales.
ASHTAR Theatre requested that individuals learn these monologues in November as an act of solidarity with Gaza and with all Palestinian individuals. The 2 of us participated in a single with Golden Thread and Aviva Arts, which is archived on HowlRound. We’ll hyperlink it within the episode transcript. I additionally need to spotlight an anthology of performs that my advisor Samer Al-Saber edited. The guide is named To the Good Individuals of Gaza, they usually’re performs by Jackie Lubeck and Palestinian kids. That is the primary anthology of youth performs from Gaza and the broader Palestinian area, and it ties collectively nineteen performs produced by Theater Day Productions, one of many foremost neighborhood theatres within the Center East. Written by playwright Jackie Lubeck, this assortment responds to the siege on Gaza and the Israeli army operations from 2009 to 2014, reflecting how Gazan youth cope with trauma, loss, and concrete destruction.
Nabra: Within the nineteen performs inside this anthology, the reader and theatrical producer witnesses experiences of a forgotten youth besieged by a silent worldwide neighborhood and a brutal wall. The performs are organized into 5 completely different thematic collection, which embrace household entanglements, loss, and the elemental goodness and resourcefulness of human beings. If you have not seen them, they’re very a lot price testing, not provided that you do theatre with youth however for everybody.
Marina: I additionally wished to say a chunk that I really do not know a lot about proper now, however it was a chunk that a number of associates of mine have been engaged on with The Freedom Theatre after I was final in Palestine and Jeries who we’re having on our episode as we speak was a part of for some time earlier than he went to Prague for his masters. Nevertheless it’s known as Gaza Metro and it really carried out in Jordan yesterday. One in every of my associates there went to see it and it is being carried out in Baghdad subsequent. So what I do know of it and why I wished to highlight it now’s simply that it is a very distinct theatrical work which is tales and conversations of passengers on a fictional subway prepare in a fictional underground space within the Gaza Strip. And so this kind of speculative fiction realm is one thing that maybe individuals aren’t used to fascinated by after they’re pondering of Palestinian efficiency and it is a piece that I hope that we are able to all see sooner or later sooner or later.
I additionally wished to say simply shortly, and Nabra and I, I’m positive can discuss this on our subsequent season as properly, however one thing that we have talked about all through particularly our first season of Kunafa and Shay is that in the US submit 9/11, lots of the theatre that individuals have been making within the States was, MENA and SWANA theatre particularly, was making an attempt to show to the world that they have been human as a result of there was a lot dehumanization taking place to brown individuals after that point. And it has been actually type of wild to see the reporting and issues taking place in Gaza for therefore many causes but in addition as a result of we actually see Gazans and different Palestinians saying “we’re people” and it is as a result of they have been known as human animals. It is due to these items.
However once more, we’re seeing this dehumanization and it simply feels a lot paying homage to different issues we have talked about the place now within the States we have been actually hoping to be previous that narrative of now individuals who write Center Japanese, MENA, SWANA, performs are increasing to various things than the human narrative. Nevertheless it appears like due to what’s taking place in Gaza, in some ways, we have circled again to this having to show Palestinian humanity and lots of brown individuals in the US who’ve been focused in hate crimes, Muslim and Palestinian of us. So it is simply one thing that I wished to say as a thought every now and then hopefully we’ll proceed to have the ability to talk about and analyze this, however it’s price seeing these patterns, particularly as they repeat themselves and particularly as we’re how they repeat themselves in storytelling.
So now let’s deal with our visitor, Jeries AbuJaber. Jeries AbuJaber is an actor, scenographer, and stage supervisor. He specialised in scenography and stage administration in park by way of Al-Harah Theater in Beit Jala, Bethlehem in Palestine. He has skilled performing by way of his work in theatre, over six years of coaching, workshops and dealing on skilled initiatives in Palestine and overseas. After six years of working within the performing arts, he determined to pursue his grasp’s diploma in directing of Devised and Object Theatre within the Academy of Performing Arts and Prague Theatre School, DAMU Czech Republic. He is additionally an expert medical clown within the RED NOSES Worldwide group from 2014 till the current. On this group, he works with kids, mother and father, aged, and medical workers. They supplies outreach to individuals outdoors hospitals and work with different applications that enable them to have a broader attain as properly. I, Marina, met Jeries in the summertime of 2022 in Palestine. We first met in Nablus the place we have been each seeing a play after which we acquired espresso afterwards with two associates.
The subsequent time that I noticed him was for a manufacturing that he wrote and was the scenographer for in Bethlehem, which continues to be one among my favourite performs. After that, we shortly turned associates and I had the privilege of attending to find out about Jeries’s work within the theatre all through that summer season and final summer season as properly. He is actually probably the most proficient individuals I do know and I am so grateful he is becoming a member of us right here as we speak. Jeries, it’s so nice to have you ever with us but in addition very unhappy as we can’t ignore the terrible state of affairs that’s ongoing in Palestine.
Jeries AbuJaber: Howdy. Howdy, Marina. Hello, Nabra. I’m actually completely happy to be right here with you and I’m actually glad that you simply gave me this opportunity first to see you as a result of it has been a bit very long time or for me, it’s a very long time to be right here with you on-line, however let’s meet personally quickly as we are able to. And yeah, we are able to’t ignore the state of affairs and it’s actually, actually onerous being actually not capable of transfer, not capable of go to, not capable of see individuals, and that’s actually lacking the household and the chums and everybody, and also you by no means know what’s going to occur and the way unhealthy can it attain, however it’s a factor that I imagine that reality will win and actually the positivity has to fill our hearts anyhow. So I’m actually completely happy to satisfy you.
Marina: Sure, we’re too. And I’m so glad to get to listen to you discuss since you’re proper, the positivity, we want that in our hearts. But in addition, we have been exchanging voice messages perhaps a month or so in the past, and also you stated one thing that I believed was so very you as a result of it is poetic in the way in which that you simply converse that you simply stated proper now—“that is an excessive amount of for our hearts and minds to hold.” And I used to be like, that is such a great way to explain what’s taking place as a result of daily it appears like, how can we proceed on carrying these items which might be taking place? I do know that your loved ones is in Palestine and likewise your folks and I am unable to think about how onerous it’s to be away from them proper now whereas that is taking place. How are they? Are you able to inform us slightly bit about what is going on on with them or something you need to share about what’s taking place within the West Financial institution?
Jeries: Sure, sure. It is just like the factor if you end up actually distant, you simply really feel that you simply need to assist and also you need to be beside them and also you need to assist them psychologically, mentally, and simply discuss to them and really feel you can be a part of the struggling that they are passing by way of as a result of sadly it is not taking place solely in Gaza, however they’re additionally murdering individuals within the West Financial institution. And the West Financial institution is admittedly getting actually a lot ache and a lot extra tears and individuals are shedding their homes additionally and individuals are shedding their children and their households and there is so many individuals have gotten prisoners contained in the Israeli jails due to nothing they usually haven’t any purpose to take them. And sadly, it is turning into very, very dramatic and really, very insufferable as a result of I am simply seeing all of this and I’ve by no means skilled this excessive of how they’re coping with people or I’d say the “animal people” that they are actually describing us, sadly.
So I’m actually psychologically probably not capable of be steady anyhow. For the reason that final semester, I’ve been making an attempt actually my greatest to present to the college and to work and be Jeries, the one that everybody is aware of, however everyone seems to be seeing that I’m making an attempt to be productive, however there’s a restrict at all times and there’s something that is stopping me from being myself. It is not regular to see a genocide that’s taking place and it is not regular to behave like all the pieces is okay, all the pieces is okay, and I can’t be on this duality of being actually, life is okay and other people listed here are additionally having fun with their life, dwelling their life regular and I’m like simply dwelling into this tough state of affairs to precise myself. And generally or more often than not I’m making ready to be alone and to be at my room and simply spending my time alone and, okay, that is making me extra related to the web and to see individuals, however that is the one approach that I’ve.
There may be some Palestinians right here and a few people who find themselves supporting, but in addition it appears like you may see individuals each time, and we aren’t used to dwell like this in Palestine. You got here and also you skilled and the Arab international locations is completely different. We’re at all times getting out, at all times assembly one another, at all times supporting one another, at all times perceive what we’re passing by way of as a result of we’re passing by way of in the identical factor, so we really feel one another extra. In order that’s why it’s actually psychologically probably not enjoyable in any respect. So till now, I’m probably not capable of actually think about that it’s actually regular in any respect. So yeah, I at all times name my household, taking care that all the pieces is okay. I’m checking on them. They’re calling me extra as a result of they want additionally this braveness and this assist from me to at all times be round them and to really feel that, “Okay, Jeries, our oldest son who is admittedly have at all times the accountability, and he’s accountable,” in order that they need to really feel this and I’m at all times there for them.
However yeah, they’re actually unhappy. They don’t seem to be actually additionally capable of dwell their life regular. So yeah, it’s actually loopy. Yeah.
Nabra: After all. Yeah. And might you inform us the place are you proper now and what have you ever been doing, whether or not that’s advocacy or artistry or simply caring for your self and your loved ones from the place you’re?
Jeries: Sure. So I’m from Bethlehem, Palestine initially and I made a decision to return to Prague, to Czech Republic in final 12 months. Not final 12 months. It was like 2022. Oh, the time. Oh my God. Time is operating actually loopy. So in 2022, in November I reached right here and I began my grasp’s diploma in Directing of Devised and Object Theatre and it is like modern theatre directing and devising. So it is actually a really true factor that I actually wished to do since a very long time and I am actually completely happy that I’ve selected this area of labor, as a result of it is part of my inventive work is that, I don’t like a lot of limits and a lot of situations that you need to make artwork as a result of artwork could be actually highly effective and there may be a lot methods you can actually specific your self. And that is a part of my approach of how I could be a director and the way I could be a inventive creator.
So I’m right here since one 12 months and two months and I’ll end right here in June, the 2 years grasp, and I can’t think about how time is passing actually loopy, however I’ll have one other one 12 months right here to jot down my thesis as a result of it may be an excellent risk for me to make use of the services that the college offers, like library, books. And in addition there’s a tutor that they’ll assist us throughout writing the grasp’s thesis. So it’s actually good to be right here and likewise making connections. I’d say that this college has individuals, instructional workforce that they’re actually very caring they usually’re actually very supportive and that makes me actually completely happy as a result of additionally a part of what I’m dealing by way of is there may be these people who find themselves actually giving me the prospect to precise myself as a lot as I can by way of my artwork. And on the similar time, they’re actually supportive they usually perceive what is occurring. So I believe that is actually a pleasant gesture from them to go on with what I’m passing by way of politically and mentally and on the similar time artistically. So yeah, that’s me.
Nabra: And what are you planning on doing after your grasp’s?
Jeries: I do not know actually. It is blurry. And I actually imagine that build up a profession not solely in Palestine, many locations, and let’s be extra logical that our theatre on the planet—if you do not have connection, if you do not have those who you understand, should you do not unfold your inventive work and understanding individuals, that will probably be actually solely restricted place that you are able to do your individual stuff. However in case you are actually spreading the phrase and understanding individuals and making relations, it actually builds an excellent factor to your profession. So that is what I am actually making an attempt to do. However I can’t hand over on Palestine ever, and I can’t really feel that I’ve to exit as a result of I am actually shocked. I believe this can be a time that all the pieces could be very clear for Palestinians and really clear for what is occurring as battle and genocide. That’s actually how they’re coping with us. Though, they needed to shut my checking account as a result of I’m Palestinian. It is actually a really loopy approach of how they’re coping with the stuff.
And that is what I need, to unfold a phrase for individuals and for people who find themselves in Palestine, not for the individuals around the globe, particularly Palestinians do not dwell into the lie of “that is the heaven.” It is not heaven. Western international locations shouldn’t be heaven. It is probably not completely different from anyplace. And Palestine is so lovely and Palestine has lots of lovely human connections.
There may be at all times this sense that you’re belonging to the place, belonging to individuals. There may be this one thing that at all times take you, grabs you and brings you again as a result of your recollections, your individuals, okay, there may be at all times I’d say unhealthy sides of all the pieces and the unhealthy aspect of Palestine—we all know occupation, we all know generally the society strain us of how we live, however on the similar time, I’m not feeling secure as a Palestinian. I am not feeling secure right here and I am not feeling secure in Palestine, however I am not feeling secure in Palestine as a result of the problem that’s larger than me and this problem is that if it is current there, however there may be my household and the individuals who offers me love that makes me secure anyhow, I do not know. I miss this a lot.
Marina: Yeah. Properly, and as you understand, Bethlehem is my favourite place on the planet. I believe that Palestine is gorgeous. However yeah, strolling by way of Bethlehem with you is a few of my favourite recollections. It’s simply essentially the most attractive place. And also you’re proper that there’s a special feeling, it’s a sense of being with neighborhood, a sense like everyone seems to be searching for one another another way. Even for me, a foreigner who the individuals have been like, “No, after all you’re a part of this neighborhood now in several methods,” which is a really loving strategy that doesn’t at all times exist within the Western world, which could be very individualistic, which could be very, I imply, a special type of mindset.
Earlier than we discuss extra about that, I simply need to flag for people who find themselves listening that I used to be with you whenever you have been ready to your visa to go to Prague. And whenever you’re describing the work you’re doing, it’s so superb, however it’s much more superb to me as a result of I do know that you simply needed to combat so onerous to get to the place you’re since you actually needed to go to lengths to get the visa and to have the ability to journey and to do the stuff you’re doing. So everytime you discuss it, I’m like, “That is unimaginable.” But in addition since you are so robust in actually working to get to the place you’re as a result of it’s not a simple factor to really be capable of decide up and go to do that.
Jeries: Yeah, it is a part of our additionally resistance of creating stuff as a result of we’re at all times… Since I used to be a child till now, I’ve by no means acquired something simple and I had on a regular basis to combat for my issues so as to get it and to be… Typically I ask myself, “Do they actually see us as people?” as a result of it describes a lot what they’re actually doing now. And I do not perceive the assist of the world to this loopy genocide that’s taking place. And I needed to go to Jordan to use for my visa to return to Czech Republic as a result of we do not have an embassy that I can apply for a long-term visa, and I needed to go to Jordan and I needed to deliver a lot papers and these a lot papers, all of them, you need to pay for them loads and you need to pay for the stamps and you need to translate it to Czech as a result of they do not settle for English.
After which I needed to go they usually did not settle for my type. After which I got here by the applying after which I needed to come again to Palestine. And that is all bills and cash and tiredness as a result of additionally passing by way of the bridge from Palestine to Jordan is admittedly very, very onerous and really unhealthy. And also you by no means know should you cross or not, and also you by no means know in the event that they shut it or not and from what time to what time and you need to wait. And for positive you need to be handled very unhealthy and never as a human since you at all times must imagine that you’re underneath occupation and it is actually very, very onerous. So I needed to come again to Palestine, put together the papers once more, then return and apply for the visa once more and are available again to Palestine and return and take my visa and are available again and take my stuff and return and go to Prague.
So it was very, very, very unhealthy and the paperwork is admittedly loopy. And now I’ve to do it yearly. I’ve to do it yearly. However what is simpler right here is you’re within the nation. So okay, you apply for it by way of workplace right here, however I can say it is simpler. However the first time was actually horrible. And this isn’t just for Prague, Czech Republic, it is also for largely all the European international locations and the US and we now have to use for visas and it is actually very bureaucratic and you need to pay cash and you need to get to place in your checking account some huge cash that you do not need to be a refugee or one thing. So that they must know that you’re not operating away or one thing. So yeah.
Marina: No, thanks for sharing these logistics. It is one thing that lots of people within the US, in the event that they’re born with a US passport, haven’t got to consider as a result of we do not have to use for visas to most locations. So I believe individuals listening will discover what you simply stated very enlightening but in addition stunning.
Nabra: And so as to add to that, I imply, getting visas and immigrating and all the pieces is tough underneath any circumstances except you may have a US or most likely UK or most European passports. However along with that, doing that in an occupied nation is, as you have talked about briefly, much more extremely tough. It is one thing onerous on prime of one thing tough.
Jeries: Yeah. As a result of if I need to discuss in regards to the particulars of the bridge and passing by way of and all the checkpoints and all the armies and all the weapons which might be current on our option to go to there, it is going to take one other episode, I believe. It is actually loopy. Yeah.
Marina: Properly, and so I need to discuss what’s taking place in Gaza after all, and it is fascinating as a result of I used to be with you… I am forgetting which summer season now. I assume it wasn’t 2023, however the summer season of 2022. You and I, we had seen a present at Bethlehem dwell pageant, that we would seen a efficiency. And Jeries was actually nice. My Arabic for listening to very fast performances, particularly on the time, was not unbelievable. And so often he would flip and be like, “And that is what he simply meant.” And I used to be like, “Nice, thanks.” However we left and we have been going to go see a comic who’s performing they usually all of a sudden informed us that the comic was canceled and it was as a result of Gaza was being bombed. And when individuals discuss in regards to the bombings in Gaza, that one’s not even talked about as a result of it was so brief relative to different bombings which have occurred in Gaza, which is loopy.
However when that occurs, issues within the West Financial institution actually shut down in solidarity what’s taking place. There aren’t events, there aren’t issues which might be taking place in the identical approach as a result of individuals after all within the West Financial institution have household in Gaza, life could be very related. And the Palestinian battle is, simply since you’re separated by some small distance, It is nonetheless very a lot interwoven. And so I proceed to consider that second. However then additionally now we have seen this genocide persevering with for greater than ninety days, I believe longer than any of us thought might be bearable. I imply, none of it is bearable, however it’s continued for therefore lengthy.
So I assume I’d love to speak in regards to the truth I do not suppose you have ever gotten to carry out in actual life in Gaza due to the blockade that began in 2007, however I do know that you simply carried out just about in Gaza, which I believe is a very fascinating factor and it segues into speaking about one among my different favourite issues to speak about with you, which is your clowning. So you have labored as a clown with RED NOSES Worldwide. Let’s begin by speaking about that. So what’s RED NOSES? You’ve got been concerned with them since 2014 and you’ve got a very cool clown that you simply embody. So let’s begin there.
Jeries: So in 2014 I utilized for an audition and it was clowning from the RED NOSES Worldwide as a result of they’ve an workplace in Palestine, now it is in Ramallah and there may be one other one in Jordan and there may be one other ten European international locations who’re on this group. So I utilized for it and I acquired accepted in January 2014. And from that point, I’ve been engaged on a personality, which could be very fascinating for this work that this group would not ask you to do a lot. Solely give us time and your artwork and be there.
After which it turns into an academic system you can cross by way of. And on the similar time, you’re working, so that you get cash. In order that was actually a cool thought and beginning with it was making me a lot steady psychologically and mentally, as a result of being within the RED NOSES, it means that you’re doing one thing very human and you’re receiving from it loads as a result of individuals when they’re simply altering to from this struggling temper and ache, they simply go along with you they usually develop into very completely happy they usually’re very, very passionated and dancing and all the hospital and all the aged homes, they develop into very… A variety of positivity they usually’re simply singing they usually need to discuss their tales they usually need to discuss their lives and it turns into very human and really lovely.
Marina: Oh, sorry, I did not imply to interrupt. I simply wished to say, so whenever you go in, you aren’t a health care provider, however you go in as a clown and also you go into work and also you discuss with sick kids or with aged individuals, as you talked about. I solely say this as a result of I just lately was speaking to individuals within the US about it they usually thought that I used to be speaking about docs who have been additionally clowns. And I used to be like, “No, they’re clown docs,” such as you’re a performer. So I simply wished so as to add that sentence in.
Jeries: Sure, sure, nice. It is as a result of as an artist, you’re constructing your individual character by way of your abilities. My clown is a heavy clown, however on the similar time he will get loopy and he is known as Dr. Shalaby Foustuk Halaby, which implies pistachio. And it is a clown that may be a singer and performs music. And what’s actually fascinating about clowning is that, as an artist, you need to be actually good in improvisation, and on the similar time, you need to be actually good in listening and to scanning all the ambiance round you, all the house. As a result of with out this and you aren’t delicate to individuals what they’re doing and what’s taking place on spot, then you may’t create your improvisation. You’re utilizing the fabric that’s round you, a cellphone and door is knocking, somebody is coughing. I do not know what. You’ll be able to create your individual tales by way of this.