Do you have to facet with He Who Was or Madeline in BG3’s Punish the Depraved?

In act 2 of Baldur’s Gate 3, you’ll encounter He Who Was, a Shadar-Kai who’s longing to punish a deceased lady named Madeline. Madeline supposedly dedicated heinous acts at a close-by tavern, and He Who Was is searching for proof to justify his vengeance.

This may begin the hunt “Punish the Depraved,” which may have you seek for the the tavern’s ledger, resolve whether or not it is best to punish or forgive Madeline’s misdeeds, and probably choose up the Raven Gloves — which could possibly be helpful if you wish to put collectively a cool summoning construct.

On this Baldur’s Gate 3 information, we’ll go over the place to search out He Who Was, the place to search out Madeline’s ledger, and clarify what occurs in case you facet with He Who Was or Madeline, serving to you identify whose facet to take.

He Who Was location in BG3

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“Punish the Depraved” will be began by speaking to He Who Was, who will be discovered to the east of the Final Mild Inn and the Camp within the Shadow-Cursed Lands.

Madeline’s Ledger location in BG3

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Madeline’s Ledger will be discovered inside the “The Waning Moon” beneath some unfastened planks by the Rat Bat, nevertheless you’ll must cross a Notion Examine to see the unfastened planks. Watch out earlier than heading inside as you’ll meet Thisobald Thorm on the bar. You’ll both must cross some excessive problem class Charisma Checks or defeat Thisobald Thorm to go looking inside The Waning Moon.

What occurs in case you inform Madeline to stab herself in BG3?

After selecting this feature, you’ll must cross a Charisma Examine with a problem class of 14. In case you succeed, you’ll be able to both:

• Inform Madeline to proceed with the stabbing.
• Cease Madeline as she confirmed resolve, which is able to result in a battle with He Who Was.

If Madeline began stabbing herself, you’ll be able to both:

• Inform her to proceed stabbing herself, which is able to result in a battle with He Who Was.
• Cease Madeline and obtain Raven Gloves, which is able to help you summon a raven.

In case you fail the Charisma Examine, He Who Was shall be completely happy that you simply punished her, however he hoped you’d punish her slightly bit extra. He’ll provide the Raven Gloves and a few gold as a reward.

What occurs in case you name Madeline a coward?

In case you name Madeline a coward, you’ll must cross a Charisma Examine with a problem class of 10. Whether or not you succeed or fail, He Who Was shall be completely happy that you simply broke her spirits, and provide the Raven Gloves and a few gold as a reward.

What occurs in case you forgive Madeline?

To forgive Madeline, you’ll must cross a Charisma Examine with a problem class of 10. In case you succeed, Madeline won’t forgive herself, however the load of guilt will really feel a lot lighter. As soon as He Who Was returns to his physique, he completely hates your resolution as he wished vengeance, and he instantly initiates fight together with your occasion. The rewards for this route embody the loot off of his physique, which features a word that ordered He Who Was to return to Shadowfell, in addition to a couple of alchemic supplies.

In case you fail, He Who Was shall be happy with Madeline’s guilt and give you the Raven Gloves and a few gold as a reward.

Do you have to select Madeline or He Who Was in BG3?

That is one among many principally grey selections in Baldur’s Gate 3, whereby there’s no good reply. Did Madeline rat her pals out and basically get all of them killed? Yeah, she positive did! Does she should be tortured in dying by this dude for being a rat? Like sure U.S. intelligence businesses, we’re unable to publicly touch upon issues involving torture.

The “good” factor to do is absolve Madeline of her sins and let her relaxation in peace, which forces you to battle He Who Was.

Torturing Madeline by making her stab herself is fairly clearly the “evil” choice, for apparent causes.

In case you don’t like this example in any respect, and don’t be ok with both selection, calling her a coward is sort of a center floor — albeit a imply one. This won’t solely fulfill He Who Was and web you all of the rewards from the hunt, it’ll additionally help you keep away from a battle with the Shadar-Kai.

For Paladins, we’ve pulled some further knowledge from the BG3 wiki, as it is a quest the place you’ll be able to break your Oath in case you make the incorrect selection.

• In case you’re an Oath of Vengeance Paladin and select to absolve Madeline or cease her from punishing herself, you’ll break your Oath — what she did does suck, and your complete schtick isn’t letting the depraved get away with issues.
• On the flip facet, for the Oath of Devotion or Oath of Ancients Paladins on the market, you’ll break your Oath in case you let Madeline harm herself or in case you chastise her.

Correction Dec. 22: An earlier model of this information didn’t appropriately determine He Who Was as a Shadar-Kai.